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How would we divide the land and how since there was no will?

Asked on Oct 22nd, 2012 on Estate Planning - California
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My parents had passed away and there was no will. Verbally, my dad gave my brother his acre of land and when mom died last year there was still no will. There were five kids and since then my sister has passed. Can we sell the land and split it four ways. We just donโ€™t know what or how do it since there was no will and one of our sisters has passed.
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Civil Litigation Attorney serving Ventura, CA at The Law Office of Robert I. Long
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In California, there may be a summary probate procedure available if the property is not worth more than $150,000. If your sister left a will or heirs other than the 4 of you (e.g., she had children) then this procedure may be too cumbersome. Apart from that, you would need to consult a probate attorney licensed to practice in the state where the property is located.
Answered on Nov 06th, 2012 at 9:35 PM

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Estate Planning Attorney serving Anaheim, CA at Dwight Edward Tompkins
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Land cannot be conveyed by a verbal agreement under the law. Since your mother was the second to die, and there was no will, someone in the family will need to petition the probate court to open an intestate probate case, and be appointed the administrator by the court. The administrator under court supervision will administrate the estate, that is, pay the debts, taxes, and expenses of your mother; and distribute the estate equally between the surviving children, and the children of the deceased child.
Answered on Oct 26th, 2012 at 7:57 PM

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Probate Attorney serving St. Louis, MO at Edward L. Armstrong, P.C.
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If your mother passed away less than a year ago you can still open a probate estate in the probate division of the circuit court. The probate procedure will allow distribution or sale of the land in question. If more than a year has passed since your mother died (I am assuming she was the survivor of your parents) then you you must institute a procedure called "determination of heirship." In either case you will need to retain counsel to help you with this.
Answered on Oct 25th, 2012 at 8:52 PM

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Shadi Ala'i AlaiShaffer
If the land is worth more than $50,000 it needs to go through Probate Court first before you can do anything. Either way, it sounds like you need the assistance of an attorney since there was no Will. I suggest seeking legal help before doing anything else.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 4:52 PM

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Alternative Dispute Resolution Attorney serving Baltimore, MD at Whiteford, Taylor & Preston L.L.P.
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The property will pass according to the intestate statute, equally among the four children and your sister's estate.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:37 PM

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You will need to consult with an attorney, as this is a complex situation. A verbal gift of land is generally not valid.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:37 PM

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Federal Taxation Attorney serving Livonia, MI at Gold & Associates PC
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The property will have to go through probate first. The verbal comment won't matter. The property or proceeds will be split between the kids and if your deceased sister had kids they will take her share.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:36 PM

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You will need to probate your mother's estate to distribute the land.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:35 PM

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Arts Attorney serving Berkley, MI at Neil J. Lehto
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The land can be divided or sold if all four surviving children agree in the probate court. Land transfers must be in writing with limited exceptions. If your brother has made improvements it may be unfair to contest his ownership. Even if your sister was married or had children, they are not entitled to her share, which may be a windfall, especially if your brother received one-fifth as opposed to one-fourth.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:35 PM

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Bankruptcy Attorney serving Alpena, MI at Carl C. Silver Attorney at Law
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You don't need a will to commence an intestate probate proceeding which will distribute the land 4 ways.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:34 PM

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Elder Law Attorney serving Auburn Hills, MI at Byers & Goulding, P.L.C.
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In answering this, I am assuming the land was titled in both your parents names as husband and wife. If the land was titled in your parents name, you or another interested party will need to open a probate estate in the county where your mother resided in order to settle the estate and distribute the land. If your deceased sister had any children, her children will inherit her 1/5 share under the state's intestacy law. If your sister did not have any children or other surviving descendants, you and your other siblings will each inherit. The verbal gift to your brother will not be effective.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:34 PM

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Leonard A. Kaanta
You have file a probate of your father's estate in probate court.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:32 PM

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Appellate Attorney serving Grosse Pointe Farms, MI at Musilli Brennan Associates, PLLC
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You will need to open a probate estate to transfer the property. Because you dad died without a will the statutory plan of distribution will prevail. You should consult with an attorney for this, it need not be terribly expensive or time consuming if all of the heirs are in agreement.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:32 PM

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You must file a probate for your parent's estate in order to transfer real property. Land is not transferred verbally, you have to have a written deed signed by the owner in order to transfer the property in Florida. A Florida probate attorney will be able to work with you to accomplish your goal to transfer the property.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:32 PM

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Thomas Edward Gates
Depending upon the state you live in, the estate passes to the children, in equal share, since your mother is deceased. Because one of the siblings has passed, they do not receive a portion.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:31 PM

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Business Planning Attorney serving Livonia, MI at Frederick & Frederick Attorneys at Law
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Verbal promises are not enforceable when it comes to land or testamentary matters, so your brother is out of luck. As far as who gets the property, now, it would depend on whether or not your sister had any spouse or child to inherit her share. If so, they would stand in her shoes and it would appear that everything would be split five ways.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:31 PM

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Administrative Law Attorney serving Sherwood, OR
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The estate needs to go through probate since there is no will. The court will decide how the assets are divided according to Oregon probate laws. This advice is based on the limited facts that you have provided, additional facts may change the advice.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:31 PM

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Probate Attorney serving Las Vegas, NV
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You will need to open a probate estate. You should consult an attorney who will need to know whose name the land titled and when you parents and sibling died to answer your question.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:30 PM

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Elder Law Attorney serving Hollister, CA at Charles R. Perry
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Since there is no will, the land must pass through probate or (if the value is small enough) through a simpler court proceeding. An oral will or transfer of property is generally not enforceable. The property will pass by the rules of intestacy, which means that each child would receive equal shares but if your sister had children, then those children would receive the share that would have otherwise gone to your sister. I suggest you contact a probate attorney to help you with this process.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:29 PM

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With no will, the property should be divided equally among the living siblings. You should consult a probate attorney about intestate succession.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:29 PM

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Taxation Law Attorney serving Glendale, CA at Irsfeld, Irsfeld & Younger LLP
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Go to a lawyer and open probate. Each of you will be entitled to an equal share. (Presumably it will be sold and the proceeds divided.) If your late sister is survived by any issue, they will be entitled to divide one share as well.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:28 PM

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Trusts Attorney serving Sacramento, CA at Law Office of Victor Waid
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Someone in your family will need to file a petition to administer the estate of your father to obtain the title to the property. Eventually, a court order will issue showing the title of the land to be divided into all of your siblings and to the children of the deceased sibling. Obtain the services of a probate lawyer as this will take some time to accomplish.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:27 PM

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Someone has to petition the court to be named administrator of your mother's estate. You should be splitting things five ways, if deceased sister had children and survived your mother. Get a lawyer to handle the administration of the estate.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:26 PM

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General Practice Attorney serving Glendale, CA at Law Office of Michael Stafford
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If the property is held in the names of your mother and dad or either of them the property must be probated. You don't need a will to probate real property. You should consult with an attorney to determine your rights.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:23 PM

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Under intestacy (the law providing how assets are divided if there is no will), equally among the siblings, with a share for the deceased sister's descendants if there are any. You would need to do a probate or small estate affidavit before selling the property.
Answered on Oct 24th, 2012 at 2:23 PM

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