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Since there is no will, will all assets (accounts) go to probate?

Asked on Nov 20th, 2013 on Estate Planning - Idaho
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My uncle recently passed away and we have not located a will. We have found two bank accounts in his name. There is no real property involved. If he listed one of his brothers on a bank account and that brother is deceased, would the funds in that account be distributed to my uncle's remaining siblings or to his brother's heirs?
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Edwin K. Niles
Uncle's siblings if they are the closest kin.
Answered on Dec 02nd, 2013 at 6:50 PM

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Taxation Law Attorney serving Glendale, CA at Irsfeld, Irsfeld & Younger LLP
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The account for the brother does not go to the brother's heirs. Everything will go through probate to the decedent's heirs. If he has no living parents or issue, then one share will go to each surviving sibling and one share to the issue of each pre-deceased sibling.
Answered on Nov 25th, 2013 at 12:46 PM

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If all you have is two bank accounts, then you might be able to do this with a Small Estate Affidavit. If the amount is too large, then, yes, it will go to probate (technically, "probate" is for a will; "administration" is for an intestate estate. Same process.) If his brother who was a joint owner died before your uncle, then your uncle owns all the bank account and it's all in his estate. If your uncle died first, and his brother who was joint on the account second, then brother owned the whole account and it's in his estate.
Answered on Nov 25th, 2013 at 12:38 PM

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Business Planning Attorney serving Livonia, MI at Frederick & Frederick Attorneys at Law
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Probate is needed if there were no joint account holders or beneficiaries named on that account. In the absence of a Will, state law decides who gets the account proceeds. Your uncle's assets would pass to his heirs, under these facts.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 5:06 PM

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Admiralty / Maritime Attorney serving Monrovia, CA at The Law Office of Nathan Wagner
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If your uncle died before your father, the bank account should go to your father's heirs. Depending on how much money is in these bank accounts, you may be able to use a small estate affidavit to transfer the accounts to your father's heirs, rather than filing a full blown probate proceeding. Currently in California, to use a small estate affidavit, the total probate assets must be less than $150,000.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:40 PM

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Business Law Attorney serving Bingham Farms, MI at James T. Weiner, P.C.
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The bank accounts all go through probate unless there is a beneficiary listed as POD (payable on death) which sets up a bank trust. Then it goes direct Generally if unless the POD beneficiary survive and it does not say or their heirs it reverts to a regular account and goes through probate. By the way, even with a will the assets would have to go through probate. Generally a funded trust is the mechanism that keeps assets from going through probate.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:39 PM

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In Missouri, the bank accounts have to go through probate if there is no beneficiary designation on the account which is known as "payable on death." If the two accounts total less than $40,000, then you can do a small estate in Missouri which is a simplified procedure. If he had listed a brother on the account and made it a joint account, since the brother died first, the ownership of the account goes to the survivor which would be the uncle.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:38 PM

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Trusts Attorney serving Sacramento, CA at Law Office of Victor Waid
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Yes as to the first question, as to the second question then the funds would go to probate also, to determine who the rightful heirs are.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:38 PM

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Probate Attorney serving New Orleans, LA at James G. Maguire
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His assets would go to his siblings, assuming that he did not have any children. If any siblings predeceased him, the heirs of that sibling would receive the deceased sibling's share. Usually, matters like this can be handled without probate. There are just some documents that need to be prepared and signed by the heirs.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:38 PM

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Probate Attorney serving Roseville, CA
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If the total value of the estate is less than $150,000 a small estate affidavit with a death certificate will transfer the accounts to the rightful owner(s). If your uncle survived his brother who was named on the account, the uncle's legal heirs are entitled to the proceeds. If the brother survived the uncle, the brother's children would get the proceeds.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:37 PM

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Thomas Edward Gates
When one dies intestate (having no will), there are specific statutes that address this case. If there is no spouse, the estate goes to his children in equal shares. If there are no children, the estate would go to his parents. If no parents are alive, then to his siblings. While his brother was on the bank account, when he died, everything in the account went to the surviving brother.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:36 PM

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Estate Planning Attorney serving Castle Rock, CO
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In Colorado, it may be possible to transfer the bank accounts using an Affidavit of Collection. Whether the estate must be probated depends on the value of the accounts when added together. It is possible that one or more of the banks will not accept anything other than Letters of Administration which are issued by the Court when an estate without a Will files for probate. For more information, contact an attorney specializing in estate administration.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:35 PM

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Acquisitions Attorney serving Lincoln, NE at Jayne L. Sebby
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If the is no one else's name on the bank accounts as joint owner and your uncle died without a will, then state intestacy statutes will determine who inherits the funds.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:33 PM

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Probate Attorney serving Las Vegas, NV
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Assuming the brother predeceased him, it will need to go into probate. Schedule a consultation with a probate attorney where your brother lived.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:33 PM

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Appellate Attorney serving Grosse Pointe Farms, MI at Musilli Brennan Associates, PLLC
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It would appear that all of his accounts and assets will have to be taken to the probate court where a probate estate will be opened and thereafter distributed.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:33 PM

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Commercial Contracts Attorney serving Boise, ID at Peters Law, PLLC
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The proceeds should probably go to the heirs of the brother that died last, if the account was a pay on death account or a joint account.
Answered on Nov 21st, 2013 at 1:12 PM

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