First, make sure that you are not merely seeing problems that you want to see. Even a bad relationship with a parent is often considered better than no relationship at all. But I get the impression from your email that you are not just being a bitter and self-serving ex-wife, and that you truly do see the children as suffering in the relationship with her father. I am considered something of an iconoclast among Utah divorce lawyers, but what I am about to tell you is my sincere and honest opinion. The conventional wisdom among most divorce attorneys and judges and court commissioners is that children must spend time with each of their parents come hail or high water. This is funny because these are the same courts that often order that sole custody is better than joint custody, but I digress. Judges and court commissioners will tell you that it is presumptively in the best interest of the child that he or she have both parents in his or her life. And few people would argue that point in general, including me. But what many courts and commissioners are unwilling to acknowledge is that some parents, if they weren't already bad parents prior to divorce, become really lousy parents after the divorce case is ended. And because the good parent and bad parent no longer live under the same roof, the good parent either stays good or gets better, while the bad parent simply stays bad or gets worse . The children will come to the good parent and tell the good parent how miserable they are with the other parent, and the good parent just wrings her hands in both sympathy and frustration. Efforts at appealing to the bad parents sense of decency and love for the child fall on deaf or even derisive ears. The good parent then thinks of approaching the court to say: "Your Honor, please don't take my word for it, just simply listen to what my child has to say. If you determine that I have exploited this child, coached this child and encouraged him or her to lie, then so be it. I think you will see that this child is credible and sincere." For reasons I honestly do not understand, the overwhelming majority of Utah courts hate this approach. They will almost literally bend over backward to avoid having to talk to a child to ask about that child's experiences, observations, feelings, opinions, and preferences when it comes to child custody. These judges and commissioners will tell you (falsely) that the reason they are so reluctant to speak with children is to spare the child harm. The reason I can say this is false with so much confidence is because the alternative to having the judge interview the child that courts come up with is far worse. While judges will routinely tell you that a child will be unduly or irreparably harmed if interviewed by a judge, these same judges have absolutely no compunction against, and see no irony in, ordering the child to be interviewed by someone else. And not just interviewed by someone else, but interviewed by *many* different people, such as a custody evaluator, a child psychologist, a therapist, a counselor, and the guardian ad litem. Somehow being interviewed by all of these people seemingly has no deleterious effects on children, or if it does have any adverse effect on the child, it is deemed justifiable. Otherwise stated, don't take everything the judges tell you as gospel. They do a lot of things for self-serving purposes under the guise of virtue. So my best advice to you, if you want to change your child's situation, is to find an attorney who has the guts and the will to get with this child needs, regardless of what the courts due to work your efforts at the outset. You've been duly warned, so be prepared for a lot of flak, but persistence and the long game ultimately win more often than not....
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